It’s been nine years since Jamie xx released his massively lauded debut solo album, In Colour. The 2015 release received a GRAMMY nomination for Best Dance/Electronic Album, hit No.1 on the U.S. Top Dance/Electronic Albums chart, and certified gold in the UK.

Beyond its measurable success, In Colour's 11 tracks were essential in catalyzing the merger of underground dance and pop music.

Jamie (whose real last name is Smith) wasn’t just an artist after In Colour. He was a household name. As a solo artist, he took his obscure sounds to massive gigs all around the world. The momentum continued when in 2017 released I See You, his third album with his celebrated indie band, The xx.  

"I got good at touring and being an artist in my twenties, but I didn't have any room for anything else in my life. So, when I got a chance to stop in the lockdown I realized I didn't really have much else. I spent a long time trying to find what else makes me whole," Smith says.

In the midst of lockdown, Smith spent time cooking, reading, avoiding excessive screen time, and hanging out with friends. When he was ready to make music on his own again, he was completely reinvigorated. The result is In Waves, Jamie xx's first solo record in nine years.

Smith's joy for making music is palpable throughout In Waves. "Life" kicks off with dance vocalist Robyn repeating the hook "You’re giving me life." Then after coasting on a delightful 4/4 beat and energetic horn samples, she sings in her sweet yet searing tone: "No, I’ll never get enough/It’s just a matter of fact." Later, "Breather" asserts Smith’s expertise in producing dastardly unconventional club beats and simultaneously encourages listeners to appreciate the present. The album also features the Avalanches and bandmates from The xx.

"It's been my favorite experience making an album ever. Even though it's been really hard and it's taken a long time," he says. "I've even learned to enjoy all the difficult parts. I've never had a great time having to finish an album because you're really in the weeds. You can't tell what's good and what's not because you've heard it a million times, but this time I was just happy to keep going."

GRAMMY.com spoke to Jaime xx about setting intentions to stay present, his rigorous standards for releasing music, and how he continues to balance his love for the underground and his growing popularity.

Given that there was such a significant gap between your solo albums, with only four official singles in between, would you say that you have a high standard when it comes to your solo work?

I definitely do. Maybe that makes it more difficult for me, and I really envy artists who can just put loads of stuff out every year. It must feel nice to be that free with it. But that's not how I work, and I do think that less is more. All my favorite artists are that way inclined.

What does it take for a song to be worth sharing?

It's something that I can't quite put my finger on, but it's usually a feeling that I get within the first half a day of making a piece of music. I know I can make it into something I'm going to love, and that might connect with other people. But I wish I knew how to get there more often because it seems to just happen without my decision being any part of it.

The idea of being present was very important to this album process. I read that it's difficult for you to remember things between when you were 18 and 30 because you were so entrenched in music and touring. On the song "Breather" you literally invite listeners to slow down, take a breath, and enjoy the moment. What was it like to make an album in this present frame of mind?

It was really enjoyable. Even the hard bits I really enjoyed just because I was aware of what I was doing. 

I also got some great advice from some people that I work with about how to be a long-standing artist. Having gone through all those ups and downs, how to keep your head straight. Robyn really helped me out with that. She's very smart. When we were making "Life," we talked about how when it gets really hard that's the really good stuff, and you shouldn't shy away.

Now that you’ve adopted a new frame of mind, how do you intend to move with this new approach to your career?

I'm gonna try and take the time to make music in the way that is best for me, and hope that people like it. 

I'm really grateful that I'm in this position where I get to play huge shows and tiny clubs, and I can also walk around the street and nobody knows who I am. Perfect level, and I just hope that I can maintain this position as long as possible.

Your first album was essential in introducing underground dance music to a larger audience, which you’ve said you had mixed feelings about. Now underground dance music is incredibly popular. What was it like creating a new album within that ecosystem?

It was difficult, mentally. I think that's why I had to get to a good place in my life really to be able to make music again. It was sending me spinning and confusing me. Then I found myself thinking about what other people were doing, which was never how I made music. I wasn't reflecting on the good parts of what other people were doing either. So I just had to check myself and have faith in people who like good music.

You said earlier that you enjoy playing massive shows, which in spirit goes against the traditional ethos of underground music. Do you feel any conflicting emotions around that?

It's a bit of both, I guess. When I’m doing these big shows, now, I'm really trying to take elements of what I love about playing at intimate shows; what I love about just clubbing and the history of dance floors and inject it into the shows. Even if they're bigger and make it more focused on the crowd and the sound than people staring at me and looking up at the stage.

That's been really fun. We've had dancers in the crowd, and we're filming them, and it integrates the crowd more into facing each other rather than facing the stage. That's one of the things that makes it feel more intimate, more like a club.

The first thing that you need to make a good club night is good people. The majority of people who have come to my shows have been amazing. [They’re] really open to me playing some weird stuff in between my music. I feel able to go on a journey with them and play differently depending on the room and the place. It's great fun for me and it's inspiring.

How do you feel about being a central figure introducing new audiences to new types of music?

That's how I fell in love with a lot of the music that is my favorite music now: from the DJs that I loved when I first started going out. Learning what they were doing, learning about deep cuts, and them being generous enough to share some of the music with me. I hope that I can pass some of that on. 

In dance music, it's all about community and bringing people together. I think what I'm doing is really not that different from what DJs from the '70s were intending to do. At least that's what I'm going for.

You’ve revealed to the world that you are back in the studio with The xx. How have you brought your new mindset as a solo artist to your work with the band?

It's quite difficult. That was the purpose of us going out and doing this solo stuff. When we come back we'll have a bit more of a wider scope, but it will be difficult. The most difficult thing is just maintaining friendships that are 20-30 years old between us. Also, to work, and…live well, with our partners and our families. It's all hard to integrate. 

The last few times we've been in the studio we've really just spent time talking with each other for days on end and barely even picked up our instruments. That's been really great.